Welcome The world is unreal Inner Strength Be the way you are Where is Shiva not? I am not this person What is real Talks with Bob Adamson Clarity talks with Nathan Gill An ancient story Certificate of Awakening The Mysterious Stranger Extracts from Tony Parsons Seeds for the Soul The Drama of it All Clarity talks with Nathan Gill The Self-Perfected State Amazing Grace The cage of self-centeredness Original mind You Are That All There Is The existence of consciousness A myriad bubbles Beyond the grasp Selling water by the river Awake In The Heartland What is wrong with Right Now? This First Instant Peace of Being Talks with Ramana Maharshi All That Jazz About Silence It is all The background Seeing it Simply The Dream of Space and Time Discovering Already Awake Reincarnation? IN MEMORIAM Basic Questions Integration Simplicity One Essence Thought The Central Teaching Unity Knowledge and Ignorance Inexpressible Door of Nonduality The real "I" Presence/Awareness Awakening to the Natural State Looking for God Life As It Is There is only Source appearing Yearning for otherness Dharmakaya The ever-present nature Getting rid of the ego To Hell with it All! You Are the Self The Search is the Trap The Obvious Are you awakened? The Supreme Self Naturally Timeless Awareness The Absolute Seekers of Enlightenment Presence of Awareness I am... This Amazing Realization I am Life itself Awareness is the Source The Golden Eternity Simple Beingness The Boundless Void Self-enquiry Who pays the bill? Changeless Reality The Precious Treasury Transparent Radiance You Are the Buddha Beyond Good and Evil The real does not die Memory Seeking I Am The Nature of Thinking The Great Way Beyond na?ve affirmation Ping-ting T'ung-tzu Free will versus determinism The End Of Seeking? A Sharing of Timeless Being Present and Obvious Blinded by the Light Hooked on Enlightenment It's marvelous All the world's diversity There is no oblivion Direct insight Remembering and forgetting Letting go Beingness That which appears Manifestation of the Absolute Nothing Being Everything Consciousness This Radiance Benedictory Verse to the Self
ATTD News Letter number 25 * Sunday, February 22, 2004 *
Table of contents.
Q & A | Beyond the grasp of individual effort | Awakened Poetry | Quote of the moment! | Smile of the moment! | Links
Q & A.Question: OK Awareness is all there is, it's the clouds up there, it's the sound of the cars outside, it's this body, thoughts, the chair...
Why does it take the specific point of view, specific locality of THIS body/mind (which it is not exclusive to) rather than say the chair or whatever?
Is Awareness dependant on a body/mind to reveal itself?
Answer: The short answer: It is not the person (the localized perspective) that can experience the infinite, it is the infinite that experiences the person. All forms are of One Substance, just like the waves on the ocean are all 'made' of water, yet water is not 'made' out of waves. The wave is the localized perspective in this metaphor. As long as the water 'waves' there is the apparent individual expression of such waves. As long as the One Substance 'peoples' there is the apparent individual expression of people.
The longer version: The form does not exist separate from the statue. The stone is the form, the form is the stone. The form may change, but the essence remains the same. The stone and the form, the unchanging and changing, are but two conceptual ends of One Awareness. The same goes for the localized and non local perspective.
Even when the localized perspective is present, there is something silently aware of this. This Awareness can itself not be localized. If we locate it between our ears and behind our eyes, as many do, then again, THAT what is aware of this, remains as the non objectifyable subject.
The best answer to the 'why' of your question is 'why not.' It is the way the game is played, between contraction and expansion; it is the nature of IT to appear as apparent diversity including persons. We could even say that a person is nothing but a localized perspective.
As the person IT may realize that his/her essence is not different from Totality, but as long as Totality/One Substance expresses as such, the local perspective will remain intact. This perspective can be recognized as a temporal occurrence, while the True Self is realized as eternal, non local Presence.
IT is the sight in all eyes and the 'person' is the way IT sees from a certain perspective. In a mystical or peak experience, it is possible that the whole sense of localized awareness is swooped away -death is probably much like this- but for the daily functioning of the game it is not a very practical state to operate from.
You are not just this localized perspective, but THAT what is aware of and appears as this perspective. Awareness is not dependent on anything to reveal ItSelf. IT can not be, because IT is all there is???.. and all there is not???.. Non local, Uncaused and Self Shining. You are That.
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Beyond the grasp of individual effortWhile we remain locked within the apparent experience of being separate individuals living in an existence with which we have to negotiate, we live in a state of dreaming.
In that dream state, all that we do is governed by the law of opposites in which every so-called positive act is exactly balanced by its opposite.
Therefore, all of our individual attempts to make our lives work, to reach perfection or to attain personal liberation, are neutralized.
We discover, through deep reflection and understanding, that as long as we continue in this dream we are, in reality, living in a circle. We are on a wheel on which everything is continually repeating itself over and over again in differing images. It is consciousness delighting in a creation that is both constrained and liberated. And despite what we believe about our individuality and our free will, we come to see that we are only dreamed characters reacting and responding from a set of conditioned and historical belief systems.
All of classic religion, art and science in a world that we see as progressive comes within the parameters of this perfectly balanced and exactly neutral state, which serves only to reflect another possibility. In terms of actual liberation, nothing is happening. What we have apparently created is apparently destroyed. And what we have apparently destroyed is apparently recreated.
Moving from our original and timeless nature into consciousness identified, we have created this circumstance in order to rediscover that the dream we are living has absolutely no purpose other then our awakening from it. That awakening emerges outside of the dream, outside of time, and is completely beyond the grasp of individual effort, path, process or belief.
From 'As It Is' by Tony Parsons
TIRED OF SPEAKING SWEETLY
Love wants to reach out and manhandle us,
Break all our teacup talk of God.
If you had the courage and
Could give the Beloved His choice, some nights,
He would just drag you around the room By your hair,
Ripping from your grip all those toys in the world
That bring you no joy.
Love sometimes gets tired of speaking sweetly
And wants to rip to shreds
All your erroneous notions of truth
That make you fight within yourself, dear one,
And with others,
Causing the world to weep
On too many fine days.
God wants to manhandle us,
Lock us inside of a tiny room with Himself
And practice His dropkick.
The Beloved sometimes wants
To do us a great favor:
Hold us upside down
And shake all the nonsense out.
But when we hear
He is in such a ???playful drunken mood???
Most everyone I know
Quickly packs their bags and hightails it
Out of town.
From: "The Gift" - versions of Hafiz by Daniel Ladinsky.
"Lightning" From MARILYN METS & PETER LEDWON'S website..
Visit them at: http://www.tla1.com/child-illus/mm.htm
Quote of the moment!There are many persons who have a great attachment to their own individuality. They want first and foremost to remain as an individual and then search, for they are not prepared to lose that individuality. While retaining their identity, they want to find out what is the truth.
But in this process, you must get rid of the identity itself. If you really find out what your are, you will see that you are not an individual, you are not a person, you are not a body.
Smile of the moment!
Sent to me by Freda from Australia
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